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Big Jack,

Another thought, how about making the propane lockers accommodate easy 5 gallon tanks that can be exchanged anywhere in North America, so you don’t have to run around looking for a fill station? And make the lockers high enough 20” at least to accommodate red tank exchange tanks in Europe?

See my post in the Owners’ Only Forum regarding the Burgess Bow Pulpit Drains (BBPD) being installed on 6047. If you do not have access to that forum, let me know and I will forward the post directly to your email. This is a meaningful improvement needed on all Selene vessels.

Jack

Jack Burgess, Shangri-La 5388

I am watching shipping costs from China to the USA. Of course, when the new King of DC Police announced his tariffs (initially 145% for goods from China), shipping went through the roof because all shippers were trying to get things on the ships and delivered before the tariffs took effect. That has softened with time a bit, due to the modest lowering of the tariffs and the delivery of the initial big burst of goods. However, as the only thing predictable these days is unpredictability, who knows what will happen?

Does anyone have information concerning what shipping of a Selene has cost since Q1 2025 to present for both the east and west coasts? I have some inquiries out and will post what I learn. Others please do the same.

Jack

Jack Burgess, Shangri-La 5388

Lucky Chucky -

Lots of thought provoking topics and solutions that have worked for you! Thank you for sharing. Not sure I would characterize your past or current state as one of “ignorance.” As Benjamin franklin said, “We are all born stupid. But one must work hard to remain ignorant.” Seems like you have learned a few things along the way to avoid that fate.

Best regards - Jack

Jack Burgess, Shangri-La 5388

Dear Jack,

Your enthusiasm in wonderful!!!

In my ignorance, here's what I've experienced:

1. Install a system that can work on 50hz or 60hz

2. Install an isloation transformer that can act as a ground so you don't burn through zincs on a hot dock

3. Install a 220 outlet in your aft deck to run a scuba compressor, and can be powered by shore power or genset

4. Heating and cooling zone system is use Samsung or Panasonic brand cost efficient mini-splits that can be purchased anywhere in the world. Have them connected to 24v invertor.

5. Use Tides shaft seals

6. Deck joints use black sydaflex which in my experience wears better with no mold signs and is sexy in contrast to the white deck

7. Sanitation hoses should be easy to access, repair and replace every 5-10 years, and not entombed in a Chinese box.

8. Selene should pre-stock your ship with a complete inventory of parts excluding electronics. Everything that could conceivably break down within 5-10 years (Starter Motors, Fuel Lift Pumps, Water pumps, Macerator pump, Toilet parts, LEDS, Fuses, SS bolts, nuts, washers, Filters, oils, greases, impellers, membranes, wiper blades, hoses, etc.), and they custom build should storage spaces for those parts.

9. Put the hot water tank somewhere where the long ass zinc can be accessed

10. Ship's safe have combo dial and not micky mouse digital with wiring that corrodes

11. Washing machine that can work on 24v inverted power

12. Install a waterproof pelican case ditch kit

13. Install a rack or cradle for your motorcycle or electric bikes

14. Install mounting for starlink on your mast

15. Install a boom to rig an emergency get home sail and get rid of the get home engine

16. Get rid of the twin anchors at the bow and just use one

Again, in my ignorance this is what I believe and have experienced.

~Lucky Chucky

Great idea … love the concept.

We are in build with 6053 due to be delivered in Q1/27.

A few items we are considering —

* Galley down with an open floor plan including a small (wide enough for 2 stacks of 2 refrigeration drawers)

* Day head in the port/aft section of the saloon (where Grato has a closet)

* True king sized bed in master cabin

* Digital switching (come on Dylan!)

Just to name a few. I have spent a few hours chatting with Jack and he shared a few really good suggestions.

Hoping to see everyone in Baltimore.

Roger and Christie

6053/ChristieAnn

I agree with Jack wholeheartedly. I cannot stress enough the importance (and enjoyment) that comes from making a few yard visits during the build process. Not only do you learn so much about your boat (we are first timers with this size boat), you get to directly influence how your boat turns out so that it is perfect for you.

It also provides re-assurance that Selene is committed to continuous improvement; we have been able to see first hand that lessons learned from the challenges being faced by owners of older models (that we read about in this forum) are being incorporated into boats being built today.

Looking forward to seeing you all soon.

David and Anne Marie Durham
(910) 777-3482
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As the owner of Shangri-La, 5388 who first contracted with Selene Yachts to build our current vessel in 2006, experienced the planning process with Chuck Wistar of Selene Annapolis, visited the yard in 2008 to see our dream coming true, and then took delivery and completed commissioning in 2010, I appreciate the great latitude extended to folks building their new Selene with Howard Chen. Of course, from that generous latitude comes the adage “If you have seen one Selene, you have seen one Selene.”

We are currently building Selene Ocean Explorer 6047, apparently the first such vessel to come to the USA (another OE60, delivered in 2023, is located in British Columbia, Canada). Before even visiting the Selene Yard a few weeks ago, and with 6047 being a spec boat (miraculously laid out just as we would have done with all basic systems) due for delivery Q1 2026, we made 25 plus changes to the build. While at the Yard we made at least 25 more changes. Since returning home we have made an additional 15 plus changes and we anticipate more to come as the hull morphs into a completed vessel. We had the pleasure of meeting David Durham, completing the build of a beautiful Selene 54 Classic wide body, at the yard and recently have had the pleasure of talking with Roger Nowakowski, also building a Selene Ocean Explorer 60 due for delivery Q1 2027, and have benefited greatly from those exchanges. I believe David and Roger have also benefited from our talks.

I can assure any folks with vessels in build that there is much to be gained from extensive communication with others “in the same boat.” From planning, to execution, yard visits, foreign flagging, changes, equipping, delivery, final commissioning, etc., there is certainly an upside to sharing the experience as a group to the extent each owner feels comfortable doing so. I invite anyone with a boat in build to contact me directly, or on the Owners’ Website, to brainstorm with me to ensure that we all travel the smoothest path to get the vessel of our dreams. My wife Terry and I are doing this for the second time and, even having done it before, anticipate a more enjoyable process and a better final product due to sharing with fellow “Boats In Build” people. My personal information is as follows:

Jack Burgess

3162 Skipjack Rd

Kinsale, VA 22488

Cell (703) 609-2033

Email jacktburgess1@gmail.com

Jack Burgess, Shangri-La 5388